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Donovan Joseph ALLEN

Male Abt 1915 - 1940  (~ 25 years)


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  • Name Donovan Joseph ALLEN  [1, 2, 3, 4] 
    Born Abt 1915  [1, 4] 
    Gender Male 
    Died 19 Jun 1940  Tobruk, Libya Find all individuals with events at this location  [2] 
    • Died aboard a Royal Navy Submarine during WW2
    ALLEN Don    		 ALLEN Don
    Person ID I1097  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2018 

    Father Joseph ALLEN,   b. 1886, St George, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Mary Matilda MILLS,   b. Abt 1883, St George, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship natural 
    Married Abt 1909  [5] 
    Family ID F369  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Maud Elsie M OLDFIELD,   b. 4 Jul 1905, Bedminster Down, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aug 1985  (Age 80 years) 
    Children 
     1. Michael Donovan Joseph ALLEN,   b. 12 Apr 1938,   d. 1994  (Age 55 years)  [natural]
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2018 
    Family ID F596  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsDied - 19 Jun 1940 - Tobruk, Libya Link to Google Earth
     = Link to Google Earth 

  • Photos
    ALLEN Donovan    		ALLEN Donovan
    ALLEN Don    		ALLEN Don
    ALLEN Don & STANTON Ron 1929    		ALLEN Don & STANTON Ron 1929
    ALLEN Donovan Death Article 1941    		ALLEN Donovan Death Article 1941
    ALLEN Donovan 2    		ALLEN Donovan 2
    ALLEN Mary M nee Mills with Donovan and Gwen    		ALLEN Mary M nee Mills with Donovan and Gwen
    ALLEN Donovan Royal Navy Entry 1931    		ALLEN Donovan Royal Navy Entry 1931

  • Notes 
    • 06/13 (Steve ALLEN email)
      "Don met a women Maud Elsie M. Oldfield 13 year his older and that was just not the done thing back then.
      They married and Maud got pregnant at the same time as Don had to go off to war.
      My mum June Allen (nee Ford) has love letter between them at this time and apparently Don was due to come home shortly after he got killed.

      My father Michael Donovan Joseph Allen was born 12th April 1938
      It seems that Joseph and Mary Matilda Allen (nee Mills) acted more as his parents than Maud."

      06/10
      Donovan was a scout at St Chads, Bristol with Ronald Stanton. Ronald later married Donovan's cousin Ruby Allen.
      Donovan was killed aboard the Royal Navy Submarine "Orpheus" during WW2 on 19th June 1940,
      HMS Orpheus (Lt.Cdr. James Anthony Surtees Wise, RN) was sunk on 19 June 1940 while on patrol about 25 nautical miles north of Tobruk, Libya in position 32º30'N, 24º00'E by the Italian destroyer Turbine. Orpheus had departed Malta on 10 June for a patrol of Syracuse. Orpheus was declared overdue on the 27th.
      http://www.uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3396.html

      and is commemorated on the Plymouth Naval Memorial in Plymouth, England.
      The Commonwealth War Graves certificate reads:
      In Memory of
      Able Seaman DONOVAN JOSEPH ALLEN

      D/JX 135712, H.M. Submarine Orpheus, Royal Navy
      who died
      on 29 June 1940

      Remembered with honour
      PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL

      http://www.cwgc.org/search/certificate.aspx?casualty=2474688

      0410
      Apparently Alexander married and was believed to have had a child. He died aboard a Royal Navy Submarine in c1943.

  • Sources 
    1. [S34] Papers - STANTON, Ronald Geoffrey, Ronald Stanton, General Information.
      Includes:
      ALLEN
      HEATH
      THORNE
      FLETCHER
      Early Trees
      Old Address Book (undated) (unscanned)

    2. [S37] Commonwealth War Graves Commission, ALLEN, Donovan Joseph; bc1915; Death; 1940; www.cwgc.org.
      Rank:Able Seaman
      Service No:D/JX 135712
      Date of Death:29/06/1940
      Regiment/Service:Royal Navy H.M. Submarine Orpheus
      Panel Reference: Panel 37. Column 1.
      Memorial:PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL

    3. [S47] Email, ALLEN, Steve; 2013 06 19;.
      Good to meet you Mark

      I've been using Ancestry.co.uk for about a week now and thanks to for tree and my mum have managed to fill in quite a bit already.
      I'm steve_j_allen if you want to search for me.
      I not sure how I can share my complete tree with you and any advice would be useful.

      You have some really great photos and I will try and get scans from the ones that my mum has sitting in a tin at her house and contribute them.

      So the story with Don is interesting.
      He met a women Maud Elsie M. Oldfield 13 year his older and that was just not the done thing back then.

      They married and Maud got pregnant at the same time as Don had to go off to war.
      My mum June Allen (nee Ford) has love letter between them at this time and apparently Don was due to come home shortly after he got killed.

      My father Michael Donovan Joseph Allen was born 12th April 1938.
      It seems that Joseph and Mary Matilda Allen (nee Mills) acted more as his parents than Maud.
      This did lead to our family having a difficult relationship with Joseph's daughter Gwen.

      I assume that because the wider Allen family didn't approve of Maud then that is why we didn't really get to know them even though I did actually get a couple of picture books from the Whites in Australia.

      So our tree down from Donovan is
      Donovan and Maude Elsie M. Allen (nee Oldfield)

      Michael Donovan Joseph Allen married June May Ford

      The Fords and the Oldfields are old Bristol families that seem to dominate Bedminster and Dundry respectively.
      There are also Honeyfields in the tree as well on my mums side.

      Childen
      Steven John Allen (me) and Carol Ann Allen

      My Children were born in Oslo Norway to my no ex Danish wife Marie Risted Allen
      Oscar and Sune Allen live in Copenhagen and I now live and work in London.

      Carol married and subsequently divorced Lawrence Eskell and they had 3 girls.
      Hannah, Lucy and Charlotte Eskell.

      Anyway, let me know if i can share my tree directly with you somehow and let's have a chat sometime.
      I also hav to decide which option to pay for on ancestry.co.uk as i'm currently just using a 2 week trial to get started.
      Any advise welcomed.

      My number is 07887972700.
      Ring any time.

      All the best
      Steve

    4. [S47] Email, ALLEN, Steve; 2013 06 20;.
      Hi Mark
      We should probably use the phone and meet when you're in London :)
      Downloading Tree Maker now.

      I had a problem linking through to your tree as Ancestry.co.uk seems to have a bug if you are already logged in.
      Please pass on my details to Caroline as I would love to meet her (and any other relatives).

      Please pass on my skype details as well
      I'm steve_alien (It was available and looks like Allen)

      I think I will go for Premium as well and see how it goes.
      Thanks for the advise.

      Dates
      June Mary Allen (nee Ford) 1939
      Michael Donovan Joseph Allen was born 12th April 1938 died 1994
      Mary Matilda Allen (nee Mills) abt 1883 (not sure if this is right as i remember her and Joseph well from the late 60's early 70's).
      Gwen Allen 19??
      Maude Elsie M. Allen (nee Oldfield) 4 Jul 1905 Bedminster Down died Aug 1985
      Steven John Allen 1963
      Carol Ann Eskell (nee Allen) 1960
      Laurence Eskell 19??
      My ex
      Marie Risted Allen (nee Risted Lind) 1969
      My kids
      Oscar Allen 1994
      Sune Allen 1995
      Carols kids
      Will find these out
      Hannah Eskell 198?
      Lucy Eskell 199?
      Charlotte Eskell 199?

      Let's keep in contact and catch up soon.

      All the best
      Steve

    5. [S31] 1911 Census, ALLEN, Joseph; & family; RG14PN14996 RG78PN905 RD319 SD5 ED50.
      Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      ALLEN, Joseph Head Married M 24 1887 Vanman Bristol St George
      ALLEN, Mary Matilda Wife Married 2 years F 28 1883 Bristol St George

      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      RG number: RG14
      Piece: 14996
      Reference: RG14PN14996 RG78PN905 RD319 SD5 ED50 SN111

      Registration District: Bristol
      Sub District: St George
      Enumeration District: 50
      Parish: Bristol
      Address:14 Camerton Road Easton
      County: Gloucestershire