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- [S8] 1871 Census, CAMPBELL, Frederick; & family; RG10 piece 257 folio 62 page 52.
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
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CAMPBELL, Fredk Head M 37 1834 Surrey
CAMPBELL, Elizabeth Wife F 29 1842 Dorset
CAMPBELL, Henry Son M 11 1860 Hampshire
RG number: RG10
Piece: 257
Folio: 62
Page: 52
Registration District: Islington
Sub District: Islington, West
Enumeration District: 21
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: All Saints
Municipal Borough: Finsbury
Address: Canal Rd, All Saints, Finsbury
County: London, Middlesex
- [S7] 1881 Census, CAMPBELL, Frederick; & family; RG11 piece 2095 folio 86 page 12.
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
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CAMPBELL, Frederick Head Married M 47 1834 Cheese Dealer Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, Elizabeth Wife Married F 39 1842 Corfe Mullen Dorset
DRAKE, Robert Wifes Uncle Widower M 84 1797 Cheese Dealer Whitchurch Dorset
RG number: RG11
Piece: 2095
Folio: 86
Page: 12
Registration District: Poole
Sub District: Poole
Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Poole St James
Municipal Borough:
Address: Market Street, Poole St James
County: Dorsetshire
- [S42] 1841 Census, CAMPBELL, Charles; & family; HO107 piece 1057 folio 7/8 page 11.
Name Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
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CAMPBELL, Charles M 35 1806 Surrey
CAMPBELL, Louisa F 30 1811 Surrey
CAMPBELL, Frederick M 7 1834 Surrey
CAMPBELL, Charles M 6 1835 Surrey
CAMPBELL, Louisa F 2 1839 Surrey
CAMPBELL, William M 0 (5 months) 1841 Surrey
CHITTY, William M 25 1816 Surrey
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1057
Book/Folio: 7/8
Page: 11
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub District: Lambeth Church First
Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Municipal Borough: Lambeth
Address: New Street, Lambeth, Lambeth Church First
County: Surrey
- [S14] 1891 Census, CAMPBELL, Frederick; & family; RG12 piece 183 folio 182 page 42.
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
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CAMPBELL, Frederick R Head Married M 57 1834 Living On His Own Means Lambeth London
CAMPBELL, Elizabeth Wife Married F 49 1842 Corfe Mullen Dorsetshire
CAMPBELL, Henry J Son Married M 21 1870 Milk Carrier Christchurch Hampshire
CAMPBELL, Sarah A Daughter In Law Married F 27 1864 Saffron Walden
Essex
CAMPBELL, Frederick H Grandson Single M 10 1881 Scholar Islington London
CAMPBELL, Mabel S Granddaughter Single F 8 1883 Scholar Islington London
CAMPBELL, Dora A Granddaughter Single F 6 1885 Scholar Islington London
CAMPBELL, Elizabeth E Granddaughter Single F 3 1888 Islington London
CAMPBELL, Amy J Granddaughter Single F 0 (7M) 1891 South Hornsey London
THOMPSON, Frederick Lodger Widower M 61 1830 Carriage Maker Clerkenwell London
BROOKS, Thomas Lodger Single M 38 1853 Painter Hoxton London
RG number: RG12
Piece: 183
Folio: 182
Page: 42
Registration District:Hackney
Sub District: Stamford Hill
Enumeration District: 12 Ecclesiastical
Parish: St Thomas
Civil Parish: Hackney Municipal Borough:
Address: 29, Chapel Road, Hackney
County: London
- [S13] 1851 Census, CAMPBELL, Charles; & family; HO107 piece 1570 folio 221 page 15.
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
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CAMPBELL, Charles M Head Married M 46 1805 Waterman And Fireman Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, Louisa D Wife Married F 41 1810 Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, F R Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Waterman Apprentice Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, Charles M Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Waterman Apprentice Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, Louisa A Daughter F 12 1839 Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, W E Son M 10 1841 Scholar Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, L F Son M 4 1847 Lambeth Surrey
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1570
Folio: 221
Page:15
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub District: Waterloo Second Part
Enumeration District: 9
Ecclesiastical Parish: Saint John's Waterloo
Civil Parish: Saint Mary Lambeth
Municipal Borough: Lambeth
Address: 7, Vine Terrace, Saint Mary Lambeth, Lambeth
County: Surrey
- [S47] Email, WHITE, Nigel; 2013 01 12;.
To: nclmwhite@yahoo.co.uk
22/01/2013
Hi Nigel
Thanks so much for the doc and pic. You have opened up a whole new avenue
for me here! I didn't have any of the Waterman information!
I need to do more study to work it out clearly. But I agree with your
thinking regarding
my record of:
"Charles CAMPBELL" bc1806 married to "Louisa D ?"
...being....
"Charles Morris CAMPBELL" bc1806 married to "Louisa D BLOODWORTH"
Re my Charles CAMPBELL b1806... being Charles "Morris" CAMPBELL:
Your "Campbell Watermen" document provides:
The match of "Frederick Robert CAMPBELL" being apprenticed to Charles Morris
CAMPBELL.
The match of "Charles Morris CAMPBELL" (jr) being apprenticed to another
CAMPBELL
...and the fact that these two names and ages match the sons in my records.
I also just noticed that on my 1851 census copy, Charles senior's middle
initial is recorded as "M".
Re my "Louisa D ?"... being "Louisa D BLOODWORTH":
The marriage/ banns doc (attached) provides:
The close matches of the names and approximate ages.
The geographical location of the marriage - Kennington being so close to
Lambeth where my Charles and Louisa lived.
The first name of one of the witnesses "Robert BLOODWORTH" being repeated in
the name of the first son.
So, as described I need to do a more thorough review, but thanks to your
efforts it looks like I might finally be on track to work out how all these
CAMPBELL's fit together and where the Doggetts story came from!
I'll have a look at the details in your tree online and be in touch once I
have pieced more of it together.
Re the photo, it isn't one I have seen before. But I will keep an eye out
for any pictures of that era, though I'm not sure that my grandmother has
any that are that old. Are you able to send me the other pic you mentioned
of Charles Morris CAMPBELL? Also it would be of interest to be in touch
with Roy once I have nailed down the linkages, so feel free to pass him my
email address.
By the way, not sure if I mentioned it but my mother is a CAMPBELL...
Frederick Robert CAMPBELL bc1834 was her GG Grandfather.
Many thanks again!
Mark
stantonmg@hotmail.com
Initial communication Via Ancestry.com....
From: NigelWhite42,
To: stantonmg,
Subject: RE: Photo of the Campbells
Hi Mark,Thanks for your reply. I think the connection is Charles Campbell (1806 in your tree) married to Louisa D ?. I belive that is Louisa Day Bloodworth - they are ancestors of Roy Campbell who sent me the photo (on it's way to you by e-mail). Roy also sent me a photo of a Charles Morris Campbell - Fireman, which fits with your tree.
I think the common link is William Campbell, b. 1770 in Stepney (Mariner). His second marriage was to Ann Unknown (probably Ann Gentle but I can't prove it). His eldest son was William Campbell (b.1803), married to Jane Lang and their son was William Henry (b.1829). William and Ann's second son was Charles Morris, who I think is the ancestor in your tree.
I'm also e-mailing you a list I compiled from visits to the Guildhall Library, trying to identify all Campbells who became WatermenLightermen. I expect you have most of this info. from Parish Register.com but hope it's of some interest.
I'll be interested to hear if you think this is the right family link. I have been finding that old family rumours tend to have some substance. I always understood from my mum that a Campbell relative had run the Tiger Tavern at Tower Hill but only had proof of it just before Christmas.
Best regards,
Nigel
stantonmg
Jan 20 3:12 PM GMT
Hi Nigel, thanks for your note. I'm afraid I don't know of the picture you describe. I'm not actually sure whether or not we are talking about the same CAMPBELL family as I've struggled to make the link between "my" CAMPBELL family and the CAMPBELL family that contains the famous "William CAMPBELL" of Coat and Doggetts fame who appears in your tree. My grandfather (Douglas CAMPBELL b1917) spoke of a relation who won the Coat & Doggetts (details of this are recorded under his record in my tree) but I can't work out a firm link!
My Grandmother still has all the CAMPBELL photos so I would need to have a good look through those, not sure when I might get the chance to do that though! If you can let me have a copy of the photo I can let you know if it matches up with anything I find in future.
cheers
Mark
stantonmg@hotmail.com
New message sent to you on Ancestry.com
12/01/2013
From: NigelWhite42,
To: stantonmg,
Subject: Photo of the Campbells
Hello, Do you have a photo of 4 Campbell brothers sitting on a bench with their father, and a young boy? I received this photo a while back from Roy Campbell (descended from Charles Morris Campbell - born in Streatham, now living in the US). He is not sure who is in the picture but thinks the boy is his father, sitting on his grandfather's knee. That makes it possible it is a photo of Charles (b. 1865) and his sons, Charles, Frank, Alick and John. I'd be interested to know if you have that picture and know who the people are.
Kind regards,
Nigel
- [S68] London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906, Ancestry.com, (Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.Original data - Board of Guardian Records, 1834-1906 and Church of England Parish Registers, 1754-1906. London Metropolitan Archives, London.Images produced by permission of the City;), CAMPBELL Frederick Robert; bc1833; Baptism; Ancestry.com. London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906; Original data: Board of Guardian Records, 1834-1906 and Church of England Parish Registers, 1754-1906. London Metropolitan Archives, London.
Name: Frederick Robert Campbell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Nov 1833
Father's Name: Charles Morris Campbell
Mother's Name: Louisa Day Campbell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Kennington St Mark
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers
- [S130] England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915, FreeBMD, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), CAMPBELL Frederick Robert; bc1833; Death;.
Name: Frederick Robert Campbell Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1896 Age at Death: 62 Registration district: Islington Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 184
- [S51] Third Party Tree Documents and Histories, CAMPBELL Watermen NWhite v1 August 2012.
Created by Nigel WHITE.
Obtained in October 2010 from microfilm at the Guildhall Library to help establish those related to William Henry Campbell.*[4]
- [S12] Marriage Certificate, CAMPBELL, Henry; MOORE, Sarah; 1880; Marriage;.
NAME: Henry Campbell
SPOUSE: Sarah Moore
RECORD TYPE: Marriage
EVENT DATE: 19 Sep 1880
PARISH: St Mary, Islington
BOROUGH: Islington
FATHER NAME: Frederick Campbell
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Register
- [S12] Marriage Certificate, CAMPBELL, Charles Morris; BLOODWORTH, Louisa Day; 1830; Ancestry.com. London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 [database on-line]. Original data: Church of England Parish Registers, 1754-1921. London Metropolitan Archives, London.
Name: Charles Morris Campbell
Spouse Name: Louisa Day Bloodworth
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Oct 1830
Parish: Kennington St Mark
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Register
Do not yet have absolute proof that this record does refer to the correct people.
Sources previous to this provided:
"Charles CAMPBELL" bc1806 married to "Louisa D ?"
This source record suggests that these people are....
"Charles Morris CAMPBELL" bc1806 married to "Louisa D BLOODWORTH"
Prompted by email from Nigel WHITE 22/01/2013 who provided the possible surname of Louisa and additional evidence via a list of CAMPBELL watermen he has compiled from data at the Guildhall Library in London.
Re my Charles CAMPBELL b1806... being Charles "Morris" CAMPBELL:
Nigel WHITE's "Campbell Watermen" document provides:
The match of "Frederick Robert CAMPBELL" being apprenticed to Charles Morris CAMPBELL.
The match of "Charles Morris CAMPBELL" (jr) being apprenticed to another CAMPBELL
...and the fact that these two names and ages match the sons in my records.
Re my Louisa D ?... being "Louisa D BLOODWORTH":
The marriage/ banns doc (attached) provides:
The close matches of the names and approximate ages.
The geographical location of the marriage - Kennington being so close to Lambeth where my Charles and Louisa lived.
The first name of one of the witnesses "Robert BLOODWORTH" being repeated in the name of the first son.
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