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- [S42] 1841 Census, CAMPBELL, Charles; & family; HO107 piece 1057 folio 7/8 page 11.
Name Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
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CAMPBELL, Charles M 35 1806 Surrey
CAMPBELL, Louisa F 30 1811 Surrey
CAMPBELL, Frederick M 7 1834 Surrey
CAMPBELL, Charles M 6 1835 Surrey
CAMPBELL, Louisa F 2 1839 Surrey
CAMPBELL, William M 0 (5 months) 1841 Surrey
CHITTY, William M 25 1816 Surrey
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1057
Book/Folio: 7/8
Page: 11
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub District: Lambeth Church First
Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Municipal Borough: Lambeth
Address: New Street, Lambeth, Lambeth Church First
County: Surrey
- [S13] 1851 Census, CAMPBELL, Charles; & family; HO107 piece 1570 folio 221 page 15.
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
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CAMPBELL, Charles M Head Married M 46 1805 Waterman And Fireman Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, Louisa D Wife Married F 41 1810 Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, F R Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Waterman Apprentice Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, Charles M Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Waterman Apprentice Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, Louisa A Daughter F 12 1839 Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, W E Son M 10 1841 Scholar Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, L F Son M 4 1847 Lambeth Surrey
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1570
Folio: 221
Page:15
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub District: Waterloo Second Part
Enumeration District: 9
Ecclesiastical Parish: Saint John's Waterloo
Civil Parish: Saint Mary Lambeth
Municipal Borough: Lambeth
Address: 7, Vine Terrace, Saint Mary Lambeth, Lambeth
County: Surrey
- [S26] 1861 Census, CAMPBELL, Charles M; bc1835; & family; RG09 piece 224 folio 31 page 7.
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
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CAMPBELL, Charles Head Married M 25 1836 Fireman Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, Emma Wife Married F 26 1835 High Wycombe Buckinghamshire
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Piece: 224
Folio: 31
Page: 7
Registration District: London City
Civil Parish: St Mary Aldermary
Municipal Borough: London
Address: ..., Watling Street, St Mary Aldermary, London
County: London, Middlesex
- [S8] 1871 Census, CAMPBELL, Charles M; bc1835; & family; RG10 piece 129 folio 31 page 1.
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
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CAMPBELL, Chas M Head M 35 1836 Surrey
CAMPBELL, Ema Wife F 36 1835 Buckinghamshire
CAMPBELL, Chas M Son M 6 1865 Middlesex
CAMPBELL, Fred G Son M 3 1868 Middlesex
CAMPBELL, Sidney H Son M 1 1870 Middlesex
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Piece: 129
Folio: 31
Page: 1
Registration District: St George Hanover Square
Civil Parish: St Margaret
Municipal Borough: Westminster
Address: ???, St Margaret, Westminster
County: London, Middlesex
- [S7] 1881 Census, CAMPBELL, Charles M; bc1835; & family; RG11 piece 445 folio 19 page 10.
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
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CAMPBELL, Charles M Head Married M 44 1837 Superintendent M F B Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, Emma Wife Married F 46 1835 Superintendent M F B Wife High Wycombe Buckinghamshire
CAMPBELL, Charles M Son Single M 16 1865 Warehouse Clerk Paddington Middlesex
CAMPBELL, Fredk G Son Single M 14 1867 Stock Broker Clerk Paddington Middlesex
CAMPBELL, Sidney H Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar ? Middlesex
CAMPBELL, Lewis W Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar ? Middlesex
CAMPBELL, Maria Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar ? Middlesex
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Piece: 445
Folio: 19
Page: 10
Registration District: Whitechapel
Civil Parish: Whitechapel
Municipal Borough:
Address: Fire Station, Whitechapel
County: London, Middlesex
- [S14] 1891 Census, CAMPBELL, Charles M; bc1835; & family; RG12 piece 281 folio 33 page 31.
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
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CAMPBELL, Charles M Head Married M 55 1836 Superintendent Metro Fire Brigade Lambeth London
CAMPBELL, Emma Wife Married F 56 1835 High Wycombe Buckinghamshire
CAMPBELL, Sidney H Son Single M 21 1870 Ship Brokers Clerk Westminster London
CAMPBELL, Louis W Son Single M 19 1872 Inquiry Agents Clerk Westminster London
CAMPBELL, Marian Daughter Single F 17 1874 Westminster London
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Piece: 281
Folio: 33
Page: 31
Registration District: Whitechapel
Civil Parish: Whitechapel
Municipal Borough:
Address: Fire Station, Commercial Road, Whitechapel
County: London
- [S2] 1901 Census, CAMPBELL, Charles M; bc1835; & family; RG13 piece 492 folio 198 page 25.
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
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CAMPBELL, Charles M Head Married M 65 1836 Retired Fir Brigade Supert Lambeth Surrey
CAMPBELL, Emma Wife Married F 66 1835 High Wycombe Buckinghamshire
CAMPBELL, Lewis W Son Single M 29 1872 Colourist Westminster London
CAMPBELL, Marian Daughter Single F 27 1874 Music Teacher Westminster London
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Piece: 492
Folio: 198
Page: 25
Registration District: Camberwell
Civil Parish: Camberwell
Municipal Borough:
Address: 38, Hillsboro Road, Camberwell, Dulwich
County: London
- [S47] Email, WHITE, Nigel; 2013 01 12;.
To: nclmwhite@yahoo.co.uk
22/01/2013
Hi Nigel
Thanks so much for the doc and pic. You have opened up a whole new avenue
for me here! I didn't have any of the Waterman information!
I need to do more study to work it out clearly. But I agree with your
thinking regarding
my record of:
"Charles CAMPBELL" bc1806 married to "Louisa D ?"
...being....
"Charles Morris CAMPBELL" bc1806 married to "Louisa D BLOODWORTH"
Re my Charles CAMPBELL b1806... being Charles "Morris" CAMPBELL:
Your "Campbell Watermen" document provides:
The match of "Frederick Robert CAMPBELL" being apprenticed to Charles Morris
CAMPBELL.
The match of "Charles Morris CAMPBELL" (jr) being apprenticed to another
CAMPBELL
...and the fact that these two names and ages match the sons in my records.
I also just noticed that on my 1851 census copy, Charles senior's middle
initial is recorded as "M".
Re my "Louisa D ?"... being "Louisa D BLOODWORTH":
The marriage/ banns doc (attached) provides:
The close matches of the names and approximate ages.
The geographical location of the marriage - Kennington being so close to
Lambeth where my Charles and Louisa lived.
The first name of one of the witnesses "Robert BLOODWORTH" being repeated in
the name of the first son.
So, as described I need to do a more thorough review, but thanks to your
efforts it looks like I might finally be on track to work out how all these
CAMPBELL's fit together and where the Doggetts story came from!
I'll have a look at the details in your tree online and be in touch once I
have pieced more of it together.
Re the photo, it isn't one I have seen before. But I will keep an eye out
for any pictures of that era, though I'm not sure that my grandmother has
any that are that old. Are you able to send me the other pic you mentioned
of Charles Morris CAMPBELL? Also it would be of interest to be in touch
with Roy once I have nailed down the linkages, so feel free to pass him my
email address.
By the way, not sure if I mentioned it but my mother is a CAMPBELL...
Frederick Robert CAMPBELL bc1834 was her GG Grandfather.
Many thanks again!
Mark
stantonmg@hotmail.com
Initial communication Via Ancestry.com....
From: NigelWhite42,
To: stantonmg,
Subject: RE: Photo of the Campbells
Hi Mark,Thanks for your reply. I think the connection is Charles Campbell (1806 in your tree) married to Louisa D ?. I belive that is Louisa Day Bloodworth - they are ancestors of Roy Campbell who sent me the photo (on it's way to you by e-mail). Roy also sent me a photo of a Charles Morris Campbell - Fireman, which fits with your tree.
I think the common link is William Campbell, b. 1770 in Stepney (Mariner). His second marriage was to Ann Unknown (probably Ann Gentle but I can't prove it). His eldest son was William Campbell (b.1803), married to Jane Lang and their son was William Henry (b.1829). William and Ann's second son was Charles Morris, who I think is the ancestor in your tree.
I'm also e-mailing you a list I compiled from visits to the Guildhall Library, trying to identify all Campbells who became WatermenLightermen. I expect you have most of this info. from Parish Register.com but hope it's of some interest.
I'll be interested to hear if you think this is the right family link. I have been finding that old family rumours tend to have some substance. I always understood from my mum that a Campbell relative had run the Tiger Tavern at Tower Hill but only had proof of it just before Christmas.
Best regards,
Nigel
stantonmg
Jan 20 3:12 PM GMT
Hi Nigel, thanks for your note. I'm afraid I don't know of the picture you describe. I'm not actually sure whether or not we are talking about the same CAMPBELL family as I've struggled to make the link between "my" CAMPBELL family and the CAMPBELL family that contains the famous "William CAMPBELL" of Coat and Doggetts fame who appears in your tree. My grandfather (Douglas CAMPBELL b1917) spoke of a relation who won the Coat & Doggetts (details of this are recorded under his record in my tree) but I can't work out a firm link!
My Grandmother still has all the CAMPBELL photos so I would need to have a good look through those, not sure when I might get the chance to do that though! If you can let me have a copy of the photo I can let you know if it matches up with anything I find in future.
cheers
Mark
stantonmg@hotmail.com
New message sent to you on Ancestry.com
12/01/2013
From: NigelWhite42,
To: stantonmg,
Subject: Photo of the Campbells
Hello, Do you have a photo of 4 Campbell brothers sitting on a bench with their father, and a young boy? I received this photo a while back from Roy Campbell (descended from Charles Morris Campbell - born in Streatham, now living in the US). He is not sure who is in the picture but thinks the boy is his father, sitting on his grandfather's knee. That makes it possible it is a photo of Charles (b. 1865) and his sons, Charles, Frank, Alick and John. I'd be interested to know if you have that picture and know who the people are.
Kind regards,
Nigel
- [S12] Marriage Certificate, CAMPBELL, Charles M; TURNER, Emma; Marriage; 1860.
- [S73] London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), STEBBINGS, Walter; CAMPBELL, Marian; Marriage; 1902.
Name: Marian Campbell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Age: 28
Spouse: Walter Stebbings
Spouse Age: 32
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Aug 1902
Parish: St Barnabas, Dulwich
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Charles Marie Campbell
Spouse Father: Nathan Stebbings
Register Type: Parish Register
- [S65] England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, Ancestry.com, (Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010.Original data - Principal Probate Registry. Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England. Londo;), CAMPBELL, Charles Morris; bc1835 ; Probate; 1909.
Name: Charles Morris Campbell
Probate Date: 3 Jul 1909
Death Date: 24 Apr 1909
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London, England
- [S31] 1911 Census, CAMPBELL, Emma; bc1835; RG14PN6828 RG78PN340 RD128 SD1 ED23 SN56.
Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
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HUMPHRYS, Elizabeth H Widow F 72 1839 None London Paddington
HUMPHRYS, Ellen Sister In Law Single F 54 1857 Housekeper London Walworth
YEATES, Francis Edgar Boarder Married M 44 1867 Builders Clerk London St Georges East
CAMPBELL, Emma Visitor Widow F 76 1835 None Bucks High Wycombe
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RG number: RG14
Piece: 6828
Reference: RG14PN6828 RG78PN340 RD128 SD1 ED23 SN56
Registration District: Brentford
Sub District: Isleworth
Enumeration District: 23
Parish: Heston
Address: Formow House London Road Hounslow
County: Middlesex
- [S12] Marriage Certificate, CAMPBELL, Charles Morris; BLOODWORTH, Louisa Day; 1830; Ancestry.com. London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 [database on-line]. Original data: Church of England Parish Registers, 1754-1921. London Metropolitan Archives, London.
Name: Charles Morris Campbell
Spouse Name: Louisa Day Bloodworth
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Oct 1830
Parish: Kennington St Mark
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Register
Do not yet have absolute proof that this record does refer to the correct people.
Sources previous to this provided:
"Charles CAMPBELL" bc1806 married to "Louisa D ?"
This source record suggests that these people are....
"Charles Morris CAMPBELL" bc1806 married to "Louisa D BLOODWORTH"
Prompted by email from Nigel WHITE 22/01/2013 who provided the possible surname of Louisa and additional evidence via a list of CAMPBELL watermen he has compiled from data at the Guildhall Library in London.
Re my Charles CAMPBELL b1806... being Charles "Morris" CAMPBELL:
Nigel WHITE's "Campbell Watermen" document provides:
The match of "Frederick Robert CAMPBELL" being apprenticed to Charles Morris CAMPBELL.
The match of "Charles Morris CAMPBELL" (jr) being apprenticed to another CAMPBELL
...and the fact that these two names and ages match the sons in my records.
Re my Louisa D ?... being "Louisa D BLOODWORTH":
The marriage/ banns doc (attached) provides:
The close matches of the names and approximate ages.
The geographical location of the marriage - Kennington being so close to Lambeth where my Charles and Louisa lived.
The first name of one of the witnesses "Robert BLOODWORTH" being repeated in the name of the first son.
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