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John Charles HEATH

Male 1851 - 1906  (54 years)


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  • Name John Charles HEATH  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
    Born 18 Feb 1851  Broadmead, St. James', Bristol, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7
    Gender Male 
    Address Mar 1851  1 Johnson's Court, St. James, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Address 1861  42 Montague Street, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Occupation 1861  [2
    Scholar 
    Occupation 1868 
    Tailor 
    Address 1871  16 Dale Street, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Occupation 1871  [1
    Paperhanger 
    Address 1881  22 North Street, Marylebone, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Occupation 1881  [5
    Paperhanger 
    Occupation 1889  [10
    Paperhanger 
    Address 1891  3 Kenilworth Street, Kensington, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Occupation 1891  [6
    Grocer 
    Address 1901  56 Grove Road, Marylebone, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Occupation 1901  [7
    Paperhanger 
    Died 1906  Paddington, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Person ID I162  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2018 

    Father John Charles HEATH,   b. Abt 1829, Paulton, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1851  (Age ~ 22 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Jane DIMOND,   b. 1825, Wellington, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship natural 
    Married 10 Sep 1848  Clifton Parish Church, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • 07/06
      John married Jane Dimond, [b.1823 in Wellington, Som.,] on 10/09/1848, by banns at Clifton Parish Church, witnessed by A.Murray and E.Cleaver. Both John and Jane were registered as 'Full Age' and resident in Clifton
    Family ID F85  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Father William YARD,   b. 1827, West Hatch, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship Stepchild 
    Mother Jane DIMOND,   b. 1825, Wellington, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship natural 
    Married 24 Mar 1853 
    Notes 
    • 07/06
      Jane Heath (née Dimond) ["spinster"] married William Yard, bachelor [born 1828, Westhatch, Somerset, "laborer".] at the Register Office, Bristol on 24/03/1853 in the presence of William Yard ("X"- his mark) and Charlotte Yard ("X"- her mark). (Jane's father shown as William "Diamond" deceased, farmer; William's father was Robert Yard, husbandman).
    Family ID F86  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Matilda Alice MABBETT,   b. 1 Jul 1850, 6 Harford Street, St. James, Bristol, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 26 Jul 1868  St Lukes Church, Barton Hill, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [11, 12
    Notes 
    • 07/06
      John married Matilda Mabbett on 26/07/1868 at St. Luke Parish Church Bristol after banns, in the presence of Samuel Wiltshire and Eliza Ann Wiltshire. (John Charles, 18, bachelor, tailor, his father was John Charles Heath, shoemaker - Matilda, 18, spinster, her father was William Mabbett, glass cutter. Residence given was Barrow Lane for both participants)
    Children 
     1. Samuel Charles HEATH,   b. 28 Jan 1869, Froom Street, St Pauls, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 16 Oct 1916  (Age 47 years)  [natural]
     2. William George HEATH,   b. Abt May 1870, Froom Street, St Pauls, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [natural]
     3. William Charles HEATH,   b. 26 Apr 1871, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [natural]
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2018 
    Family ID F84  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Ellen ?,   b. 1855, Saffron Walden, Essex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2018 
    Family ID F445  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 3 Emily GOULD,   b. Abt 1854, Minstead, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 1899  Paddington, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2018 
    Family ID F446  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • 06/11
      It would appear that John Charles left Bristol sometime in the 1870's for London. There he married a lady called Ellen (surname unknown) born in Saffron Walden, Essex, who appears as his wife on the 1881 and 1891 census. They don't appear to have had any children. In 1899 John Charles remarries again to an "Emily GOULD" (BMD Index). So that by the 1901 census we find John Charles with wife "Emily", born in Minstead, Hampshire. Also living with them is Herbert John GOULD who is listed as John's stepson, this ties in with the names on the marriage data on the BMD Index. Emily's 1911 census record shows that John Charles has (apparently) died and she has become a widow. She is now running a 10 room boarding house in Paddington. The census also records that Emily had two children born to her alive, but that only one survives (presumably Herbert John?)
      11/08 Mervyn
      Matilda Mabbett married John Charles HEATH of course (when already three months pregnant) but they managed to continue to have a family of three boys, although at the time of the 1871 Census,only one was living with them - they seemed to have been having problems, because the other two boys were living with relatives.
      By the publication of the 1881 Census John Charles HEATH is shown in St. Marylebone, London, aged 30, with a new wife, Ellen, aged 26. And by the 1901 Census, at the age of 50 he had changed her for Emily, aged 47 (who had been a servant in a coffee shop) and an 18 year-old stepson, Herbert John GOULD, who was a Solicitor's clerk.

      09/05 Mervyn
      The 1851 Census shows: at 49 Broadmead, St. James, Bristol.
      HEATH John (senior) 22, shoemaker, born Paulton, Som.
      HEATH Jane, 28, " Wellington, Som.
      HEATH John (Charles - junior) 1m " Bristol.

      07/06
      1871Census- 16 Dale Street, St.Paul, Bristol shows:
      John Charles Heath, 21, paperhanger, b.Broadmead, St.James;
      Matilda Heath, 21, wife, machinist, b.Harford St.,St.James;
      William George Heath, 6 mth , son, b.Froom St.,St.Pauls.

      Also 1881Census- 22 North St., St.Marylebone,London, Middlesex, England, shows:
      John Heath,30, paperhanger, b.Bristol,Gloucs.;
      Ellen Heath,26, wife ,b.Waldon, Essex.
      ( Mystery no.1. Is this our John Charles? - Mystery no 2. What happened to Matilda?)

  • Sources 
    1. [S8] 1871 Census, HEATH, John Charles; & family; RG10 2528 p8;.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

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      HEATH, John Charles Head M 21 1850 Gloucestershire
      HEATH, Matilda Wife F 21 1850 Gloucestershire
      HEATH, William George Son M 0 1871 Gloucestershire

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      RG number: RG10
      Piece: 2528
      Folio: 8
      Page: 8

      Registration District: Bristol
      Sub District: St Paul
      Enumeration District: 21
      Ecclesiastical Parish:
      Civil Parish: St Paul
      Municipal Borough: Bristol
      Address: Dale Street, St Paul, Bristol
      County: Gloucestershire

    2. [S26] 1861 Census, YARD, William; bc1827; & family; RG09 piece 1721 folio 44 page 13.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

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      YARD, William Head Married M 34 1827 Dairyman West Hatch Somerset
      YARD, Jane Wife Married F 36 1825 Wellington Somerset
      HEATH, John Son In Law M 10 1851 Scholar Bristol
      YARD, William Son M 6 1855 Scholar Bristol
      YARD, Thomas Son M 4 1857 Bristol
      YARD, Robert Son M 1 1860 Bristol

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      Piece: 1721
      Folio: 44
      Page: 13

      Registration District: Bristol
      Civil Parish: St James
      Municipal Borough: Bristol
      Address: 42, Montague Street, St James, Bristol
      County: Gloucestershire
      William YARD is listed with wife Jane. John HEATH is listed as "Son-in-law" (i.e. his stepson). William YARD junior also listed.

    3. [S13] 1851 Census, HEATH, John Charles; bc1829; & family; HO107 1950 331 p14.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

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      HEATH, John Head Married M 22 1829 Shoe Maker Paulton Somerset
      HEATH, Jane Wife Married F 28 1823 At Home Wellington Somerset
      HEATH, John C Son M 0 (1 MOS) 1851 At Home Bristol St James

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      Piece: 1950
      Folio: 331
      Page: 14

      Registration District: Bristol
      Civil Parish: St James
      Municipal Borough: Bristol
      Address: 1, Johnsons Court, St James, Bristol
      County: Gloucestershire

    4. [S47] Email, QUARMBY, Adrienne; 2008 09 06;.
      Hello Mervyn,

      I was so grateful to receive an attachment from you that I received from Mark Stanton about memories of my family.

      I am the daughter of Arthur William Samuel Heath and Laura Bessie Heath who you say you met and my grandparents were Samuel Charles Heath and Deborah Elizabeth Ann (Dunn). I can later give you stories and fill in gaps about them.

      I have been going around in circles about Samuel Charles Heath's parents, John Charles Heath and Matilda Mabbett. I had found the same information as you in the censuses about John Charles Heath but Matilda was more difficult to trace. I had to go on snipets that my mother had told me.
      Mum said that Matilda left John Charles and went to London and that Samuel Charles had step-sisters. There was also an 'aunt' Tilly who stayed with them in Essex St, Bedminster, Bristol.

      Searching for Matilda Heath, I found in the 1881 census, living at 2 Peerless St, St Lukes Parish, Finsbury
      John Carlile (Head), married aged 25, engine driver, b.London, Surrey
      Matilda wife aged 24 machinist, b. Bristol
      Matilda daughter, aged 2 b. Middx, St Lukes
      Arabella daughter, aged 9 months b. Middx, st Lukes

      I have been unable to find a marriage for Matilda and John but did they just say status was married when they were not divorced and living together? I have the birth certificate for daughter Matilda born on 7th April 1879 where she is named as Matilda Alice Mary, and mother is given as Matilda Alice Carlile, formerly Mabbett and fatheris John Carlile. This daughter is the 'Aunt' Tilly referred to by my mother.

      Later in the 1891 two more daughters have been born and living at 10 Bloom....? St, Marylebone, London
      Entry given as:
      John Carlile (Head) married 38 engine driver b.London St Sepulchre
      Matilda Carlile married 42 b. Bristol, Bedminster
      Arabella Carlile aged 10 b. London, Marylebone
      Mary Carlile, aged 6 b. Bristol, bedminster
      Alice Carlile, aged 4 b. London, Marylebone

      N.B eldest daughter Matilda A M M Carlile aged 12 by now not there. I found her staying with Isabella Bennett aged 42 at 15 Bartley St Bedminster, Bristol. Mum had also told me that 'Aunt'Tilly stayed with Arabella and went to a convent (probably a school ) in Redcatch St, Bristol. and my Aunt Beatie also mentioned Samuel Charles Heath's step sisters Tilly and Alice.

      It appears that Matilda Mabbett lied about her age because on these 2 censuses her ages do not tally but perhaps she told John Carlile she was not as old as she was when she met him. Also could not find a marriage for them but perhaps she did not divorce and lied as to marital status on censuses!

      I cannot find them on the 1901 census but I think I have found a death for a John Carlile between 1891 an 1901. Yet again I cannot find what happened to Matilda Mabbett or where she was after 1891 but her children with John Carlile would mean that they were half-sisters to Samuel Charles Heath because they had the same mother. 'Aunt Tilly' is on the wedding photograph of Edwin Charles Heath to Gladys.

      I know that Matilda A M M Carlile married a Sidney Bartlett and they had a daughter Doris in 1908 I think.

      I have spent so much time trying to research Matilda Mabbett as I think you have. On her marriage certificate to John Charles Heath, her father is given as William Mabbett, glass cutter. However, when I sent for her birth certificate Matilda was born on 1st July 1850, her father is named as Matthew Mabbett, and mother Matilda Mabbutt, formerly White at 6 Harford St, Bristol,
      Can find no information about this William Mabbett yet.

      Arabella's birth certificate shows she was born on 2nd September 1848 at 9 Harford St to Matilda Mabbutt, formerly White and father is Richard Mabbutt.

      The plot certainly thickens!

      I will send a cop of this to Mark Stanton.

      Best wishes,
      Adrienne nee Heath

    5. [S7] 1881 Census, HEATH, John; & family; RG11 piece 159 folio 103 page 49.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

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      HEATH, John Head Married M 30 1851 Paper Hanger Bristol Gloucestershire
      HEATH, Ellen Wife Married F 26 1855 Nil Waldon Essex

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      RG number: RG11
      Piece: 159
      Folio: 103
      Page: 49

      Registration District: Marylebone
      Sub District: St John
      Enumeration District:
      Ecclesiastical Parish:
      Civil Parish: St Marylebone
      Municipal Borough:
      Address: 22, North St, St Marylebone
      County: Middlesex

    6. [S14] 1891 Census, HEATH, John; & family; RG12 piece 29 folio 46 page 23.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

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      HEATH, John C Head Married M 40 1851 Grocer Bristol
      HEATH, Ellen Wife Married F 37 1854 Essex

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      RG number: RG12
      Piece: 29
      Folio: 46
      Page: 23

      Registration District: Kensington
      Sub District: Kensington Town
      Enumeration District: 56
      Ecclesiastical Parish: St Clements
      Civil Parish: Kensington
      Municipal Borough:
      Address: 3, Kenilworth Street, Kensington
      County: London

    7. [S2] 1901 Census, HEATH, John; & family; RG13 piece 113 folio 52 page 9.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

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      HEATH, John Charles Head Married M 50 1851 Paper Hanger Bristol Gloucestershire
      HEATH, Emily Wife Married F 47 1854 Minstead Hampshire
      GOULD, Herbert John Step Son Single M 18 1883 Solicitors Clerk Bloomsbury

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      RG number: RG13
      Piece: 113
      Folio: 52
      Page: 9

      Registration District: Marylebone
      Sub District: Christchurch
      Enumeration District: 7
      Ecclesiastical Parish:
      St Matthews
      Civil Parish: St Marylebone
      Municipal Borough:
      Address: 56, Grove Road, St Marylebone
      County: London

    8. [S60] BMD Index, HEATH, John Charles & GOULD, Emily; MARRIAGE; 1899.
      BMD Search result details
      Civil Registration event: Marriage

      Name: HEATH, John Charles
      Registration District: Paddington
      County: London
      Year of Registration: 1899
      Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
      Volume No: 1A
      Page No: 24
      MarriageFinderâ„¢: John Charles Heath married one of the following people:
      GOULD, Emily

    9. [S60] BMD Index, HEATH, John Charles; DEATH; 1906.
      BMD Search result details
      Civil Registration event: Death

      Name: HEATH, John Charles
      Registration District: Paddington
      County: London
      Year of Registration: 1906
      Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
      Age at death: 54
      Volume No: 1A
      Page No: 17

    10. [S12] Marriage Certificate, HEATH, William Charles; & BEATON, Mary; 1889;.
      Mervyn has a photo-copy of the Marriage Certificate, No. 340, issued in the Parish of St. John the Evangelist, Hammersmith, Middlesex, on 28 January, 1889, recording Marriage, after Banns, between :
      William Charles HEATH, 19, Bachelor, (Ship's) Steward, 33 Cardross Street, Father John Charles HEATH,
      and
      Mary BEATON, 19, Spinster, - 33 Cardross Street, Father John George BEATON.
      (Witnessed in the presence of Fred John Manders and Louisa Groombridge).
      The copy was one I received from a cousin whose mother was, like my Mum, a daughter of William Charles, so, as you say we have not much doubt about the authenticity of the record.

      Copy from London Metropolitan Archives, P80/JN/A/02/003 attached:
      NAME: Mary Beaton
      ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1870
      AGE: 19
      SPOUSE: William Charles Heath
      SPOUSE AGE: 19
      RECORD TYPE: Marriage
      EVENT DATE: 28 Jan 1889
      PARISH: St John the Evangelist, Hammersmith
      BOROUGH: Hammersmith and Fulham
      FATHER NAME: John George Beaton
      SPOUSE FATHER: John Charles Heath
      REGISTER TYPE: Parish Register

    11. [S47] Email, QUARMBY, Adrienne; 2008 08 19;.
      Hello Mark,

      I hope you don't mind me contacting you but I have recently started researching my roots and I think I can answer a few of you queries. I have just looked at your tree on Rootsweb and started with Samuel Charles Heath, my grandfather. I have a copy of his birth certificate and he was born on 28th January 1869 not February. He married Elizabeth Ann Dunn and they had 5 children Edwin C (Charles I think) b 4.10.1985, Victor Emmanuel b 8.4.1898?, Sidney George b 22.5.1901, Dora Irene b 8.8.1905 and lastly, my father, Arthur William Samuel b. 25.12.08.

      I know that you have had other queries over what happened to Matilda Mabbett who married John Charles Heath in 1868 but my mother said that she left John (or it could have been he left her). I don't think that she died in childbirth as was suggested but lived with or married a John Henry Carlile. They had 2 daughters Matilda and Arabella. The daughter Matilda is I think who was referred to as Aunt Tilly in my family and was in fact Samuel Heath's step sister because they both had the same mother. Arabella was their aunt and is why on the 1891 census they are in the same household as Isabella (Arabella) Bennett and down Samuel down as nephew and Matilda down as niece. Aunt Tilly (Matilda Carlile) later married Sidney H Bartlett. She came often to visit my father's family in Essex St, Bedminster, Bristol and appears on one of my uncle's wedding photographs and sent a photo of herself to Deborah.

      I hope this makes sense. I have so much to sort out and verify with certificates.

      Hoping I have a reply,
      Adrienne nee Heath

    12. [S47] Email, QUARMBY, Adrienne; 2008 09 05;.
      Hello Mark,

      I was delighted to have a reply from you and your great uncle's attachment. As his grandfather and my grandfather were brothers, I think that makes him my cousin, twice removed doesn't it? It is exciting to discover distant relatives.

      Tell him that last month I went to the funeral of Brian Heath in Bristol, my Uncle Sid and Aunt Beatie's son. While there I visited the Bristol Record Office and it was this that got me hooked on seriously researching my family. Whilst there I found the reference to Matilda Mabbett and John Charles Heath and sent for their marriage certificate where her father is named as William Mabbett, glass cutter. I subsequently sent for Matilda's birth certifcate (born 1st July1850 at 6 Harford St, Bristol, only to find her father named as Matthew Mabbett. When Arabella's birth certificate arrived, her father was Richard Mabbett and she was born on 2nd Sept 1848 at 9 Harford St, Bristol. So began the quest trying to unravel the truth about the Mabbetts which is still on going!!

      Matilda Mabbett's daughter by John Henry Carlile, had a lot of connection with my family, especially Deborah Elizabeth Ann and can be seen on some family photographs.

      I have photographs of Uncle Vic (Victor Emmanuel in his Royal Marine Light Infantry Uniform and in his Royal Marine unifrom when it amalgamated. I am not sure if he was ever in the Merchant Navy.
      I did know that Samuel Charles Heath was called Deborah Elizabeth Ann Dunn, it was just my haste in typing, leaving out the 'Deborah'.

      I am so impressed by your website and will have to check people in my family now. If I can fill in any gaps I will contact you.

      Looking forward to future contact.

      Best wishes,
      Adrienne