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John James ALLEN

John James ALLEN

Male 1859 - 1949  (89 years)

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  • Name John James ALLEN  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16
    Born 12 Dec 1859  Wick, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 14, 16, 17, 18
    Gender Male 
    Address 1861  Wick, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Address 1871  Rolling Mills, Wick, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Occupation 1871  [5
    Scholar 
    Address 1880  Llantwit juxta Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [14
    Occupation 1880  [14
    Forgeman 
    ALLEN John RATHBONE Jane Marriage Cert 1880.pdf
    ALLEN John RATHBONE Jane Marriage Cert 1880.pdf
    Address 1881  9 Bishop Street, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Occupation 1881  [6
    Furnaceman (Iron) 
    Address 1885  5 Albert Street, Redfields, Bristol, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Occupation 1885  [2
    Furnaceman at Iron Works 
    Address 1891  18 Clarence Place, Weston, Bath, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Occupation 1891  [7
    Telephone Engineer 
    Address 1901  5 Lynton Place, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [16
    Occupation 1901  [10, 16
    Edison Bell Company; Telephone Foreman 
    • Apparently John put up all the poles from Bridgewater to Taunton!
    Address 1907  3 Oakleigh Avenue, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [13
    Address 1911  3 Oakleigh Avenue, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [8, 10
    Occupation 1911  [8, 10, 11
    Telephone Foreman 
    Address 1942  122 Victoria Avenue, Redfield, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [12, 15
    Occupation 1942  [15
    Retired Telephone Foreman 
    Address 1945  122 Victoria Avenue, Redfield, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [13
    Will 1945  [13
    ALLEN John James Will 1945.pdf
    ALLEN John James Will 1945.pdf
    Died 19 Feb 1949  [9, 10
    Buried 24 Feb 1949  Grave# 120; Purple X; Avon View Cemetery, Crews Hole, Bristol, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [9, 12, 19
    ALLEN John James Funeral Reciept 1949.pdf
    ALLEN John James Funeral Reciept 1949.pdf
    Person ID I90  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2018 

    Father Mark ALLEN,   b. Abt 1830, Wick, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Elisa WEBB,   b. Abt 1826, Wick, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F362  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Jane Ann RATHBONE,   b. 8 Jan 1852, Iron Acton, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Jun 1942, 122 Victoria Avenue, Redfield, Bristol, Avon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 90 years) 
    Married 27 Mar 1880  Parish Church, Llantwit juxta Neath, Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [4, 9, 20
    • 07/11
      Interesting to see that in the 1901 census Elizabeth is working as a cook for the family of a clergyman (Griffith Matthews) who was born in Tonna, Neath. Tonna is 1km up the road from where John ALLEN and Elizabeth RATHBONE (cousins of this Elizabeth) were married. This suggests that the link with this part of South Wales was perhaps on the ALLEN side rather than RATHBONE.
    StIlltud Church, Llantwit Juxta Neath, Wales
    StIlltud Church, Llantwit Juxta Neath, Wales
    Children 
     1. Elizabeth May ALLEN,   b. Abt Jan 1881, St George, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 14 Dec 1944  (Age ~ 63 years)  [natural]
     2. Gilbert ALLEN,   b. 7 Apr 1885, 5 Albert Street, Redfields, Bristol, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Mar 1963, Cossham Memorial Hospital, Bristol, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years)  [natural]
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2018 
    Family ID F54  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 12 Dec 1859 - Wick, Gloucestershire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsAddress - 1861 - Wick, Gloucestershire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 27 Mar 1880 - Parish Church, Llantwit juxta Neath, Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Link to Google Earth
     = Link to Google Earth 

  • Photos
    ALLEN John and Jane 1930
    ALLEN John and Jane 1930
    ALLEN John Jane Gilbert Jane Ruby and Chum 1934
    ALLEN John Jane Gilbert Jane Ruby and Chum 1934
    ALLEN John, Jane (nee RATHBONE), Gilbert and Elizabeth c1910
    ALLEN John, Jane (nee RATHBONE), Gilbert and Elizabeth c1910
    ALLEN John & family with VEALE family 1934
    ALLEN John & family with VEALE family 1934
    ALLEN John, Jane, Gilbert, Julie (nee CULLINANE) and Ruby at Wick c1927
    ALLEN John, Jane, Gilbert, Julie (nee CULLINANE) and Ruby at Wick c1927

  • Notes 
    • 06/11
      It is not clear why John and Jane would have married so far from their "home". On the 1871 census there is however a family of ALLEN's from Devon living in Llansamlet near Neath. I wonder if there could be a connection there.
      07/11
      Interesting to see that in the 1901 census Elizabeth is working as a cook for the family of a clergyman (Griffith Matthews) who was born in Tonna, Neath. Tonna is 1km up the road from where John ALLEN and Elizabeth RATHBONE (cousins of this Elizabeth) were married. This suggests that the link with this part of South Wales was perhaps on the ALLEN side rather than RATHBONE.

      04/10
      Notes from Source "Ronald Stanton, Family Notes, General Information, ALLEN.": Grandpa John James Allen. b12/12/59 d19/2/49; Telephone Foreman Ganger; Edison Bell Company. All poles from Taunton to Bridgewater. Enjoyed walking in country. Tired out. Police bring him home.

      3 Oakley Avenue, Whitehall.

      Members of Primitive Whitehall Methodist Church, St George, Bristol. Burial service there.

      06/03
      Photo from Album 1. Page 13 - Written on rear is detail that John and Jane had 11 children. Elizabeth and Gilbert were the only surviving children by time the photo was taken. The census of 1911 however says they had 7 children born alive, but only 2 remaining.

  • Sources 
    1. [S26] 1861 Census, ALLEN, Mark; & family; RG09 piece 1744 folio 55 page 14;.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

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      ALLEN, Mark Head Married M 34 1827 Blacksmith Wick and Abson Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Eliza Wife Married F 34 1827 Wick and Abson Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Aaron Son Unmarried M 16 1845 Agricultural Labourer ... Monmouthshire
      ALLEN, Hannah Daughter Unmarried F 12 1849 Scholar ... Monmouthshire
      ALLEN, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 10 1851 Scholar Wick and Abson Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 7 1854 Scholar Wick and Abson Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Morgan Son Unmarried M 3 1858 Wick and Abson Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, John Son Unmarried M 1 1860 Wick and Abson Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Aaron Father In Law Widower M 58 1803 Agricultural Labourer Wick and Abson Gloucestershire
      SHORT, Daniel Lodger Unmarried M 50 1811 Labourer At... Wick and Abson Gloucestershire

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      RG number: RG09
      Piece: 1744
      Folio: 55
      Page: 14

      Registration District: Chipping Sodbury
      Sub District: 2 Marshfield
      Enumeration District: 5
      Ecclesiastical Parish:
      Civil Parish: Wick and Abson
      Municipal Borough:
      Address: Wick, Wick And Abson
      County: Gloucestershire

    2. [S9] Birth Certificate, ALLEN, Gilbert 1885.
      Rank or profession of Father - Furnaceman at Iron Works

    3. [S9] Birth Certificate, ALLEN, John James; 1859.

    4. [S34] Papers - STANTON, Ronald Geoffrey, Ronald Stanton, ALLEN, Jane (nee RATHBONE); In Loving Memory; In Photo Album "ALLEN FAMILY RUBY - ALBUM 2".

    5. [S8] 1871 Census, ALLEN, Mark; & family; RG10 piece 2578 folio 58 page 19.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
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      ALLEN, Mark Head M 41 1830 Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Eliza Wife F 45 1826 Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Morgan Son M 14 1857 Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, John Son M 12 1859 Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Frank Son M 10 1861 Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Annie Daughter F 5 1866 Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Aron O Boarder M 70 1801 Wiltshire

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      RG number: RG10
      Piece: 2578
      Folio: 58
      Page: 19

      Registration District: Chipping Sodbury
      Sub District:Marshfield
      Enumeration District: 5
      Ecclesiastical Parish:
      Civil Parish: Wick & Abson
      Municipal Borough:
      Address: Rolling Mill, Wick & Abson
      County: Gloucestershire

    6. [S7] 1881 Census, ALLEN, John James; & family; RG11 piece 2491 folio 5 page 3.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

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      ALLEN, John Head Married M 21 1860 Furnaceman Iron Wick Bath Somerset
      ALLEN, Jane Ann Wife Married F 27 1854 Iron Acton Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 0 1881 St George Gloucestershire

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      RG number: RG11
      Piece: 2491
      Folio: 5
      Page: 3

      Registration District: Barton Regis
      Sub District: St George
      Enumeration District:
      Ecclesiastical Parish:

      Civil Parish: St George
      Municipal Borough:
      Address: 9, Bishop Street, St George
      County: Gloucestershire

    7. [S14] 1891 Census, ALLEN, John James; & family; RG12 piece 1939 folio 42 page 20.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

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      ALLEN, John Head Married M 31 1860 Telephone Engineer Wick Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Jane A Wife Married F 27 1864 Iron Acton
      ALLEN, Elizabeth Daughter F 10 1881 St Georges Bristol
      ALLEN, Gilbert Son M 5 1886 St Georges Bristol

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      RG number: RG12
      Piece: 1939
      Folio: 42
      Page: 20

      Registration District: Bath
      Sub District: Batheaston
      Enumeration District: 2
      Ecclesiastical Parish: St John

      Civil Parish: Weston
      Municipal Borough:
      Address: 18, Clarence Place, Weston
      County: Somersetshire

    8. [S31] 1911 Census, ALLEN, Gilbert; & family; RG14PN14977 RD319 SD5 ED31 SN186.
      Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

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      ALLEN, John James Head Married M 51 1860 Telephone Foreman Wick Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Jane Ann Wife Married 31 years F 56 1855 House Work Mancheton Gloucestershire
      ALLEN, Gilbert Son Single M 25 1886 Engineer Mechanical St George Gloucestershire

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      RG number: RG14
      Piece: 14977
      Reference: RG14PN14977 RD319 SD5 ED31 SN186

      Registration District: Bristol
      Sub District: St George
      Enumeration District: 31
      Parish: Bristol
      Address: 3 Oakleigh Avenue
      County: Gloucestershire

    9. [S34] Papers - STANTON, Ronald Geoffrey, Ronald Stanton, Significant dates.

    10. [S34] Papers - STANTON, Ronald Geoffrey, Ronald Stanton, General Information.
      Includes:
      ALLEN
      HEATH
      THORNE
      FLETCHER
      Early Trees
      Old Address Book (undated) (unscanned)

    11. [S35] Death Certificate, RATHBONE, Jane; 1942.

    12. [S34] Papers - STANTON, Ronald Geoffrey, Ronald Stanton, ALLEN, John; b1859; Grave Deed.
      Grave# 120; Purple X; (For two internments only)

    13. [S43] Will, ALLEN, John James; b1859; 1945;.

    14. [S12] Marriage Certificate, ALLEN, John James & RATHBONE, Jane Ann; 1880.

    15. [S43] Will, ALLEN, Jane; b1852; 1942; Probate.

    16. [S128] 1901 England Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2005;), ALLEN, John James; bc1861; & family; RG16 piece 2390 folio 85 page 1.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALLEN, John Head Married M 40 1861 Telephone Foreman Wick Gloucestershire ALLEN, Jane Ann Wife Married F 43 1858 Rangworthy Gloucestershire ALLEN, Lizzie Daughter Single F 20 1881 Assistant Drapery Shop St George Bristol ALLEN, Gilbert Son Single M 15 1886 Merchant Engine Apprentice St George Bristol -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG16 Piece: 2390 Folio: 85 Page: 1 Registration District: Bristol Sub District: St George Enumeration District: 25 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Matthew Moorfields Civil Parish: Bristol Municipal Borough: Address: 5, Lynton Place, Bristol County: Gloucestershire

    17. [S34] Papers - STANTON, Ronald Geoffrey, Ronald Stanton, Significant dates (Reliability: 3).

    18. [S9] Birth Certificate, ALLEN, John James; 1859 (Reliability: 4).

    19. [S39] Cemetery Burial Reciept, ALLEN, John James; 1949.
      Grave: Purple x; Number: 120

    20. [S12] Marriage Certificate, ALLEN, John James & RATHBONE, Jane Ann; 1880 (Reliability: 4).