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Martha PATTEN

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  • Name Martha PATTEN  [1, 2, 3, 4
    Born Abt 1835  Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 3, 4
    Gender Female 
    Baptism 18 Jun 1837  Fisherton Anger, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Address 1841  Fisherton Street, Fisherton Anger, New Sarum, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Address 1851  3 John Street, Southampton, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Occupation 1851  [4
    Domestic Servant 
    Person ID I918  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2018 

    Father William PATTEN,   b. Abt 1803 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Elizabeth Peach NAPIER,   b. 20 May 1804,   d. 1 May 1842, Fisherton Anger, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 37 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Married 1 Jun 1827  Fisherton Anger, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 5
    Family ID F184  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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  • Notes 
    • 12/11
      1851 census has "Martha PATTEN; bc1834, Salisbury, Wiltshire". She is recorded visiting an "Eliza HILLIER" at 3 John Street in Southampton (her sister Mary Ann would later live at number 6 which was uninhabited in 1851). Interestingly the next census page has living at number 8, "Richard JOCEYLYN" from Fisherton Anger.

      Unable to locate "Martha PATTEN; bc1854" in the 1861 census or beyond. There are a couple of "Martha PATTENs" around Yeovil, however, these were also there on the 1851 census when we found Martha in Southampton, so can probably be discounted.

  • Sources 
    1. [S47] Email, TURNER, Graham; 2005 06 27;.
      However what you might really find interesting, although I know that you
      did mention on an earlier occasion that your Genealogical interests lay
      mainly with the Stantons, are the ancestors of a little lady (she could of
      course have been a large lady) shown only as "Mary Ann ?" on your tree - the
      wife of Richard Targett.

      This is what I believe her ancestry (and ours!!) could possibly be:

      Caroline TARGETT. born 1854 - Birth Cert attached.
      Parents - Richard TARGETT & Mary Ann TARGETT nee PATTEN

      Mary PATTEN & Richard TARGETT married 10 Oct 1852, St Mary,Southampton
      Both father's names were William. Mary's middle name was not shown - I
      have the Cert - you're welcome to a copy.

      From the 1861 Census Mary A Targett is shown as age 28 (b.1833),
      born.Salisbury,Wilts - Census attached

      From the IGI (sure not reliable but can be a good pointer):
      Parents: William PATTEN & Elizabeth
      1. Mary Ann PATTEN Christening: 01 SEP 1833 Fisherton Anger*, Wiltshire
      2. George PATTEN Christening: 18 JUN 1837 Fisherton Anger, Wiltshire
      3. Martha PATTEN Christening: 18 JUN 1837 Fisherton Anger, Wiltshire
      4. John PATTON Christening: 06 JUL 1828 Fisherton Anger, Wiltshire
      5. William PATTEN Christening: 05 SEP 1830 Fisherton Anger, Wiltshire
      6. Charles PATTEN Christening: 19 MAY 1839 Fisherton Anger, Wiltshire
      *Fisherton Anger was next Salisbury!

      Marriages: William PATTEN
      Spouse: Elizabeth NAPIER <<-- Take note of this surname!!!!!
      Marriage: 01 JUN 1827 Fisherton Anger,Wiltshire (M152081 1754 - 1895)

      1841 Census. FRC Fiche Ref HO107 1167/2
      Branch & Dole Hundred, New Sarum, Fisherton Anger.
      Fisherton Street - Page 30
      William Patten, 35 yrs, M.S. (merchant seaman?) - No place of birth
      given - means not Wiltshire - all the others have Y for yes in place of
      birth field - meaning they were born in Wiltshire.
      Elizabeth Patten, 35, Y
      John Patten, 13, Y
      William Patten, 10, Y
      Mary Patten, 8, Y
      Martha Patten, 6, Y
      George Patten, 4, Y
      Charles Patten, 2, Y

      I'm in contact with a couple of people (Norman Hallam and Gill and
      Graham Gill) who are descended from these Patten children and both appear to
      be full on Genealogists. They have both sent me much interesting and
      relavent information.

      Rather than bore you with more detail I've included 3 pages of the
      Napier Tree originally sent by Norman (go to the bottom of page 2 first and
      work your way up) - he has since sent 16 pages going back to the 1300's to
      the Lairds of Merchiston (Edinburgh) with sources. .

      You will also see the name "Tregonwell" which is a line the Napiers
      married into - I've been promised this tree as well. Norman has said that
      this line is fascinating with Sir John Tregonwell (~1498-1565) (apparently
      my 12 x GGF - and hence your 13 x GGF) being a lawyer in the Court of Henry
      VIII - representing Henry when he got rid of Katherine of Aragon - he was
      also the first owner of Milton Abbey after the dissolution of the
      monastries. His portait is attached. Another Tregonwell was the founder of
      Bournemouth.

      I think thats enough for one sitting - I hope it's not too confusing - if you are interested I do have quite a bit of information that I'm trying to collate that I can also send. If you look on the internet there is copious amounts of information on the Napiers.

    2. [S47] Email, PATTEN, Keith; 2008 05 03;.
      Dear Mark,

      Thanks for your quick reply.

      I have been working on this for some little while and I am still not completely certain of all of my facts.

      I believe that William Patten is the son of Arthur Patten & Elizabeth Lowcock.

      Groom Arthur Patten status - of -, - Bride Elizabeth Lowcock status - of -, - married on 24 Feb 1789 at parish West Chinnock by - Witnesses - Notes - I would love a copy of this certificate if you know where it can be obtained

      There were 4 children in total:

      West Chinnock, Sara? Patten, baptised 29.10.1789
      Middle Chinnock, Anne/Annie/Aime baptised 11.09.1791
      Middle Chinnock, Edward baptised 08.03.1794..........................My GG Grandfather
      Chiselborough, William baptised 1803.

      Edward and wife Patience (Gray) moved to Fisherton Anger probably around 1824.
      Although he had moved his family on by 1841 to Newport, other Pattens, born out of county, remained in Wiltshire. This includes an elderly Elizabeth Patten and a younger Sarah Patten, schoolmistress, aged 35 - I thought this was age 55 when I originally came across the entry and thought I had found Edward’s widowed mother (nee Elizabeth Lawcock) and his sister Sarah. Still a strong possibility.
      William Patten was also settled in Fisherton Anger in 1841 with a growing family and wife Elizabeth Napier who he married in 1827.
      Edward was a carpenter by trade and records show that there was a great deal of building work in Fisherton Anger and Salisbury at that time.

      So the likely scenario is that Edward Patten was baptised in West Chinnock, on 8 March 1794. His parents were Arthur Patten and Elizabeth Lawcock, married at WC on 24 Feb 1789. In 1820s, for reasons unknown but likely to be work related and/or, the possible death of Arthur, Edward and family, his brother, sister(?) and mother had moved to Fisherton Anger, Wiltshire.

      William Patten

      Married Elizabeth Peach Napier on 1 June 1827 at Fisherton Anger, Wiltshire. Offspring baptised at FA were:

      John, 6 July 1828
      William, 5 Sept 1830
      Mary Ann, 1 Sept 1833
      George, 18 June 1837
      Martha, 18 June 1837
      Charles, born c1839, baptism not yet checked. Info from 1841 census only.

      All six children survived until 1841 at least and were living with their parents in Fisherton Street, Fisherton Anger. William senior’s occupation was male servant. He was born out of county. A burial is recorded at FA for an Elizabeth Patten, aged 39, on 1 May 1842. I have yet to locate William in 1851 and suspect that he either died or went to sea. The children were scattered but some ended up in Southhampton and hence the speculation that William, after the death of Elizabeth went to sea and was not recorded in any following census.

      In the research so far I have found the following:-

      Mary Ann Patten was born on 1 Sep 1833 in Fisherton Anger, Wiltshire, England. She was baptized on 1 Sep 1833 in Fisherton Anger, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England. She died in 1867 in Southampton, Hampshire, England.

      Mary Ann Patten and Richard Targett were married on 10 Oct 1852 in St Mary's Church, Southampton, England. Richard Targett was born on 9 Dec 1827 in Old Basing, Hampshire, England. Mary Ann Patten and Richard Targett had the following children:

      Thank you for your kind offer to send a copy of the marriage certificate I would really like to have it.

      Mary Ann Targett was born in 1853 in Southampton, Hampshire,

      Caroline Targett was born on 9 Jan 1854 in 2 James Street, Southampton,

      William Edward Targett was born in 1856 in Droxford, Hampshire, England.

      Sarah Ann Targett was born in 1858 in Southampton, Hampshire, England.

      Elizabeth Jane Targett was born in 1861 in Southampton, Hampshire, England.

      Henry George Targett was born in 1863 in Southampton, Hampshire, England.

      Kate Targett was born in 1865 in Southampton, Hampshire, England.

      I have looked for the children, very briefly, in 1851. Possibilities are:

      Martha, aged 17, born Salisbury, Wiltshire, in service, Southampton, St Marys. She later married William Tizzard
      William, aged 19, born Salisbury, Wiltshire, lodging and working as a costermonger, also Southampton, St Marys

      I can not find Charles and George in 1851 Census but a possibility is that they were returned to Somerset and were recorded as being born in West Chinnock (Som) HO107/1930/~F472 living together at the Union House Preston Road, Yeovil, Somerset.

      In the 1861 Census (RG9/1362) George was living with the Pitcher family as a lodger and Baker's Servant at, Private House, Melbury Osmond, Dorset

      By 1871, George and wife Elizabeth (b Dorset) had returned to Somerset and were living with their family in Yeovil. He was a baker.

      In 1861, Charles Patten was lodging in Yeovil and working as a chimney Sweep.

      I still need to trace the origins of Arthur Patten and how he fits into the huge Patten Family in Chinnock and Chiselborough. Based on my progress to date and one step forward two steps back methodology, it may take some time. I guess that is the reason we enjoy doing this research

      Kind Regards....Keith

    3. [S42] 1841 Census, PATTEN, William; & family; HO107 piece 1167 folio 2/29 page 11.
      Name Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      PATTEN, William M 35 1806
      PATTEN, Elizabeth F 35 1806 Wiltshire
      PATTEN, John M 13 1828 Wiltshire
      PATTEN, William M 10 1831 Wiltshire
      PATTEN, Mary F 8 1833 Wiltshire
      PATTEN, Martha F 6 1835 Wiltshire
      PATTEN, George M 4 1837 Wiltshire
      PATTEN, Charles M 2 1839 Wiltshire

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      RG number: HO107
      Piece: 1167
      Book/Folio: 2/29
      Page: 11

      Registration District: Alderbury Union
      Sub District: Britford
      Enumeration District:
      Ecclesiastical Parish:

      Civil Parish: Fisherton Anger
      Municipal Borough: New Sarum
      Address: Fisherton Street, Fisherton Anger, New Sarum
      County: Wiltshire

    4. [S13] 1851 Census, PATTEN, Martha; bc1834; HO107 piece 1669 folio 205 page 2.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

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      HILLIER, Eliza Head Unmarried F 22 1829 General Dealer Wareham Dorsetshire
      RILEY, Mary Ann Visitor Unmarried F 14 1837 Domestic Servant Romsey Hampshire
      PATTEN, Martha Visitor Unmarried F 17 1834 Domestic Servant Salisbury Wiltshire

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      Piece: 1669
      Folio: 204
      Page: 1

      Registration District: Southampton
      Civil Parish: St Marys Southampton
      Municipal Borough: Southampton
      Address: 3, John Street, St Marys Southampton, Southampton
      County: Hampshire

    5. [S51] Third Party Tree Documents and Histories, NAPIER.