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  • Name Alice CARLILE  [1, 2, 3
    Born Abt 1887  Marylebone, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 3
    Gender Female 
    Address 1891  10 Devonshire Street, Marylebone, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Address 1911  19 John Street, Enfield, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Occupation 1911  [3
    Lamp Maker (Electrical Works) 
    Person ID I945  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2018 

    Father John Henry CARLILE,   b. Abt 1853, St Sepulchre, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Matilda Alice MABBETT,   b. 1 Jul 1850, 6 Harford Street, St. James, Bristol, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F326  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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  • Notes 
    • 09/11
      Unable to locate "Alice CARLILE" in the 1901 census.

  • Sources 
    1. [S14] 1891 Census, CARLILE, John; & family; RG12 piece 99 folio 48 page 28.
      Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born


      CARLILE, John Head Married M 38 1853 St Sepulchre London
      CARLILE, Matilda Wife Married F 42 1849 Stationery Engine Driver Bristol Bedminster
      CARLILE, Arabella Daughter F 10 1881 Marylebone London
      CARLILE, Mary Daughter F 6 1885 Bristol Bedminster
      CARLILE, Alice Daughter F 4 1887 Marylebone London


      RG number: RG12
      Piece: 99
      Folio: 48
      Page: 28

      Registration District: Marylebone
      Sub District: Christchurch
      Enumeration District: 6
      Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch
      Civil Parish: St Marylebone
      Municipal Borough: Marylebone
      Address: 10 Devonshire Street, St Marylebone, London, Marylebone
      County: London

    2. [S47] Email, QUARMBY, Adrienne; 2008 09 06;.
      Hello Mervyn,

      I was so grateful to receive an attachment from you that I received from Mark Stanton about memories of my family.

      I am the daughter of Arthur William Samuel Heath and Laura Bessie Heath who you say you met and my grandparents were Samuel Charles Heath and Deborah Elizabeth Ann (Dunn). I can later give you stories and fill in gaps about them.

      I have been going around in circles about Samuel Charles Heath's parents, John Charles Heath and Matilda Mabbett. I had found the same information as you in the censuses about John Charles Heath but Matilda was more difficult to trace. I had to go on snipets that my mother had told me.
      Mum said that Matilda left John Charles and went to London and that Samuel Charles had step-sisters. There was also an 'aunt' Tilly who stayed with them in Essex St, Bedminster, Bristol.

      Searching for Matilda Heath, I found in the 1881 census, living at 2 Peerless St, St Lukes Parish, Finsbury
      John Carlile (Head), married aged 25, engine driver, b.London, Surrey
      Matilda wife aged 24 machinist, b. Bristol
      Matilda daughter, aged 2 b. Middx, St Lukes
      Arabella daughter, aged 9 months b. Middx, st Lukes

      I have been unable to find a marriage for Matilda and John but did they just say status was married when they were not divorced and living together? I have the birth certificate for daughter Matilda born on 7th April 1879 where she is named as Matilda Alice Mary, and mother is given as Matilda Alice Carlile, formerly Mabbett and fatheris John Carlile. This daughter is the 'Aunt' Tilly referred to by my mother.

      Later in the 1891 two more daughters have been born and living at 10 Bloom....? St, Marylebone, London
      Entry given as:
      John Carlile (Head) married 38 engine driver b.London St Sepulchre
      Matilda Carlile married 42 b. Bristol, Bedminster
      Arabella Carlile aged 10 b. London, Marylebone
      Mary Carlile, aged 6 b. Bristol, bedminster
      Alice Carlile, aged 4 b. London, Marylebone

      N.B eldest daughter Matilda A M M Carlile aged 12 by now not there. I found her staying with Isabella Bennett aged 42 at 15 Bartley St Bedminster, Bristol. Mum had also told me that 'Aunt'Tilly stayed with Arabella and went to a convent (probably a school ) in Redcatch St, Bristol. and my Aunt Beatie also mentioned Samuel Charles Heath's step sisters Tilly and Alice.

      It appears that Matilda Mabbett lied about her age because on these 2 censuses her ages do not tally but perhaps she told John Carlile she was not as old as she was when she met him. Also could not find a marriage for them but perhaps she did not divorce and lied as to marital status on censuses!

      I cannot find them on the 1901 census but I think I have found a death for a John Carlile between 1891 an 1901. Yet again I cannot find what happened to Matilda Mabbett or where she was after 1891 but her children with John Carlile would mean that they were half-sisters to Samuel Charles Heath because they had the same mother. 'Aunt Tilly' is on the wedding photograph of Edwin Charles Heath to Gladys.

      I know that Matilda A M M Carlile married a Sidney Bartlett and they had a daughter Doris in 1908 I think.

      I have spent so much time trying to research Matilda Mabbett as I think you have. On her marriage certificate to John Charles Heath, her father is given as William Mabbett, glass cutter. However, when I sent for her birth certificate Matilda was born on 1st July 1850, her father is named as Matthew Mabbett, and mother Matilda Mabbutt, formerly White at 6 Harford St, Bristol,
      Can find no information about this William Mabbett yet.

      Arabella's birth certificate shows she was born on 2nd September 1848 at 9 Harford St to Matilda Mabbutt, formerly White and father is Richard Mabbutt.

      The plot certainly thickens!

      I will send a cop of this to Mark Stanton.

      Best wishes,
      Adrienne nee Heath

    3. [S31] 1911 Census, CARLILE, Alice; bc1887; RG14PN7409 RG78PN358 RD132 SD6 ED2 SN285.
      Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born


      GREEN, Henry Head Married M 32 1879 Plasterer Hoxton London
      GREEN, Eliza Wife Married10 years F 29 1882 Enfield Middlesex
      GREEN, Henry Son M 9 1902 Edmonton Middlesex
      GREEN, Arthur Son M 5 1906 Enfield Middlesex
      GREEN, Ivy Daughter F 4 1907 Enfield Middlesex
      GREEN, Charles Son M 2 1909 Enfield Middlesex
      CARLILE, Alice Boarder Single F 24 1887 Lamp Maker Marylebone London


      RG number: RG14
      Piece: 7409
      Reference: RG14PN7409 RG78PN358 RD132 SD6 ED2 SN285

      Registration District: Edmonton
      Sub District: Enfield
      Enumeration District: 2
      Parish: Enfield
      Address: 19 John St Bush Hill Park
      County: Middlesex